"I think they`re ... systematically collecting evidence."

David Rohde is the executive editor for news at NewYorker.com. Danya Perry served as New York Deputy Attorney General and Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. And they join me now. First, let`s start with the news reported by the New York Times. Again, this has been an incremental and moving story but we now have, I think, the best sense of the scope here, David. 40 subpoenas, two cell phones taken from individuals close to Trump, Boris Epshteyn and Mike Roman, a subpoena being served to Bernie Kerik. This seems bigger than just to focus on the super PAC. This seems like a big case that the federal government is making. What do you make of it?

DAVID ROHDE, EXECUTIVE EDITOR FOR NEWS, NEWYORKER.COM. I think they're, you know, systematically collecting evidence. They`re being aggressive as they can be. And I think they are pressuring these various Trump associates to become cooperating witnesses. You see that in all these different investigations, you know, the subpoenas, they want them to come turn over records. They maybe want some of them to testify before a grand jury.

You mentioned the case of Christina Bob who signed that letter saying there weren`t any classified documents in Mar-a-Lago, she is now in legal jeopardy. And I think investigators, in that case, are eager to get her under oath, because she has a choice to she sort of explained that President Trump had her say this that implicates Trump and wrongdoing, or does she, you know, lie to a grand jury. And this is a kind of classic, you know, prosecution tactic for a wide-ranging investigation where you again, go with these lower level people and pressure them to flip. source
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