I got sick of reading that highly suspicious military death toll of Ukraine they keep on pitching and the term unprovoked so I wrote an email.
I made a mistake and put down 90000 killed but it was 80000 Russians killed or wounded but its more the 9000 ukrainian death toll that gets me.
So if the Russians say 2000 and we say 25000 then that's over 10x so 9000 ukrainian dead at least equals 90000 which is a tragedy.
They actually replied I suspect because I made an error they could beat me with
We are supposed to be the honest truthful democracy that won't exist if our media are liers
Here's the letter
Dear stuff
I understand your need to publish propaganda for the advancement of your ideology or profit but do you ever feel that at some point the reality may diverge so far from the reported news that things start to get unbelievable.
When I was young I used to listen to the soviet union broadcasts for a laugh. Tractor production up 50%, steel production up 100%, glorious happy well feed people so happy they would escape at the slightest opportunity.
Now I read your articles for some humour . Unfortunately this just makes me sad and casts doubt over every thing the media has ever and will ever print.
You claim the 9000 ukrainian soldiers have died and up to 90000 Russian soldiers in this unprovoked war.
Mr Zelensky admitted 100 soldiers were dying a day so for the 6 months that's well over the 9000. I don't know how many Russians have died but if the Russians say 2000 and your side says 90000 then that says something about information and propaganda during a war.
I have seen calculations of up to 190000 dead Ukrainians . That's dead so times that by 4 to get the wounded. I really don't think you are doing any favours for anyone except a small group of war mongers for not questioning these numbers.
Also the repeated claims of an unprovoked attack can at the least be disputed. There was some history before which seems to be left uncovered. Even if you oppose Russia, like any argument, if you are to solve it you need to know both sides. Do you not want to solve this problem?
I don't know the truth either but I look around, do you? It is allegedly your job so I would expect you to at the very least check or question.
Trust can only come from reporting the truth. I would rather you admitted you don't know things then print propaganda as fact.
If you actively lie what else are you going to lie about and then where does that leave us? Listening to Alex Jones or something. I understand you take money from the government so maybe you have no choice but like those unvaccinated people if you really disagree then you are free to walk away from your job.
If you continue to publish these numbers with out question you are as guilty as all those who are profiting from this war.
We can't change nor recreate history but we can learn from it.
What have we learned?
Cheers irreversiblechaos
Here is the reply
Suck dick irreversiblechaos (that's not what they actually said but I know that's what they meant)
This story does not include a 90,000 figure for Russia. It quotes a range of figures, from different sources. I would note that it is a story from the Associated Press, and has been republished with permission. For international stories like the war in Ukraine, we rely on our reputable partners for expert reporting. If you have further concerns about the figures, you should contact AP. If they make a change to their story we will reflect it on Stuff.
Ngā mihi
So they get their propaganda from external sources and check nothing and if you have complaints go fuck off (I think that's how it translated). Also left out any mention of provocation or history even to denounce such thought.
Note to self, must stop getting angry and writing letters.
I don't think taking sides will help but the truth goes a long way to stop these things
