#cbt
#CBT #CognitiveBehaviouralTherapy
gotta share this somewhere. n_n
https://www.reddit.com/r/mensa/comments/pt23cn/comment/jabsazt/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 / https://www.reddit.com/r/mensa/comments/pt23cn/deleted_by_user/inepshd/?context=3 (i dont reddit often, so i hope i'm linking that correctly to catch the relevant parts for others to see the conversational thread (at least what remains of it past the deleted comments). pasting the post just made, here at the end of this post.
(and, och, just remembered, just noticed, i neglected/forgot to include a portion on the self-contradiction-of-absolute-in-exception... oh well, that's a special treat just done, here for you only. lol).
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CBT is the only scientifically valid therapy,
"scientifically" "valid" "therapy". By what criteria has it been "validated"?
(I ask in this manner to include pointedly reveal how "invalid" it is to do this in a reductivist 1-bit binary pass/fail.)
so yes,
???
there are studies that prove it's effectiveness.
Please provide, so we can pick through them.
No, duress does not exist in CBT,
Sounds like contradiction without counterargument to the example situation I depicted. Keen to hear how it'd be refuted.
Also, not true of my first-hand experience, nor of how I've seen it lays itself out to be deployed. Seems fundamental to its form, despite professing otherwise (which then hides the flaws under this delusion, preventing them from being remedied, which, if they were remedied, it would no longer be this thought-control and behaviour manipulation paradigm called CBT).
it's the anthesis
Mere contradiction. And at least as poorly spelled as my spelling typically is. ;) would like to hear how this is conceived, without succumbing to the flaw I already spoke to.
(unless you have a seriously neurotic therapist that is going offline). A legitimate therapist will never tell you what you are, they ask question to assist the patient in discovering who they are.
As an enthusiast of Socrates, I've found it offensive to see how the questions are weilded, as well as how presumptive and compassionless. The confirmation biases abound and compound harms, even creating fresh harms and maladies of trauma in its victims of this unduely magnanimous arrogant self-proclaiming "valid" aproach that cannot see outside of its biases to question itself. That it's been claimed here as "the only", enloudens this folly, and strengthens the corrupting walls of its mental prison. Menticidal, one could even say. And these are to be who get to be sole providers of mental health care?!
Further speaking to the presumptiveness, and "the only"'ness, it appears to be the proverbial hammer alone in the toolbox, making all problems look like a nail. Like there's psychelogical prevention/discouragement of having it occur to the practitioner (and administration), that there may be conditions CBT is ill-suited to. (I say, as if there are any it is suited for... which I doubt, given the flaws I've been depicting.)
I have never met a person that has done CBT and proclaimed themselves cured.
Sounds open to interpretation as on the side of agreeing with my assertions, and in contradiction to your claims of validity. ;D
But also, sounds like is in the paradigm of palliative profiteering. "A patient cured is a customer lost".
But also sounds like not the case, as experienced in my case, and as it appears to be intrinsic to the paradigm as is supposed to be deployed, despite the professing otherwise (again, the delusional psychology of CBT's menticidal arrogant magnaminity and supreme totalitarian monopoly on psychiatric treatment... hints to what it may really be about... but woe upon any who point out this folly, for they are the witch, the commie, the antivaxxer, ... the other who disobeys the norm, and due for more treatment until they obey the doubleplus goodthink, and cease that wrong-think, ... with that gently gently abuse of the socratic method, psychelogically wearing them down.)
And feel free to fall into whatever portion of folly in it there I've pointed out, castigate me gently, for my wrongthink, thus proving me wrong in the delusional cognitively-dissonant perspective, or proving me right by that being just what I've pointed out. Or declare that incorrect deployment of CBT, and I'll happily explore that and show the fundamental flaws as I find them.
Some people are meta-thinkers and hyper ambitious/motivated, so they continue CBT for years. Most people drop out at some point because it requires too much reflection, effort and acceptance of imperfection.
LOL. Those who stick with CBT are of superior mind, hah! Reminds of the kinds of psyop I may have got into when I worked in Advertising or Marketing (before I got out (thanks Bill Hicks)), to manipulate people by their egos into wanting the product. What a monstrous harm that causes in psyches and proliferates through society. Really ugly. Frightening, that people get misdirected from seeing it, and not only that, but lured into willful avoidance of even looking.
Your statements sound like a personal preference
Then you've not been paying attention closely enough to hear the message in what I've been saying.
Your statements sound like world view defensiveness, passive aggressive judgements oblivious to the three fingers pointing back. ;D
rather that information based on actual science,
:3
experience
Incorrect
or rationale.
So I'm irrational in my observations and assertions?
Well, I better get help with that... oh, and since CBT is "the only" "scientifically" "valid" "therapy", I guess I'll have to subject myself to that!
What a farce.
Commedic obtuse obnoxious dangerous-stupidity farce.
Scientism and worse, as I see it.
Rather "cant get there from here".
I believe their concerns can be best understood if we acknowledge that not all adult emotional problems ultimately stem from failures in thinking and reasoning, as CBT maintains.
https://psyche.co/ideas/the-philosophical-roots-of-cbt-help-explain-its-limitations
Before you can accomplish anything great you must first believe it is possible and that you can do it. #SelfBelief is a prerequisite to accomplish almost any big #goal. #motivation #goals #inspiration #cbt
NHS to give therapy for depression before medication under new guidelines | Depression | The Guardian
Millions of people with mild depression in England should be offered therapy, exercise, mindfulness or meditation before antidepressants, according to the first new NHS guidelines in more than a decade.
Under draft guidance, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice) recommends the “menu of treatment options” be offered to patients by health professionals before medication is considered.
“The pause in #NICE's publication is a temporary setback, and it is evidence of how determined the psychosocial school is to maintain its status quo. We can and should oppose this pause and support immediate publication of the #guidelines. We must provide public accountability if there is any interference in what NICE itself says was a rigorous process.
The tide will continue its turn. #GET and #CBT are on the way out because there is no scientific basis for continuing to use them.”
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UK health standards body delays new ME guidance in therapy row | ME / Chronic fatigue syndrome | The Guardian
Charities dismayed as move to stop recommending graded exercise therapy is opposed by some medical groups
GET might make some people feel better but doesn't cure ME/CFS. Likewise, CBT can help some people deal with their condition, but cannot possibly cure the illness, any more than wishing can.
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