#insanity

wist@diasp.org

A quotation by Carroll, Lewis

“But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.

​”Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”

​”How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.

​”You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

Lewis Carroll (1832-1898) English writer and mathematician [pseud. of Rev. Charles Lutwidge Dodgson]

Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, ch. 6 “Pig and Pepper” (1865)

#quote #quotation #crazy #insanity #madness #meme #situation

More notes and sourcing on WIST: https://wist.info/carroll-lewis/38445/

dredmorbius@joindiaspora.com

"The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people."

Attributed to Stephen Hawking.

This suggests a triangular relation in the form of "The thing about X is that they seem like Y to Z", where X, Y, and Z are smart, dumb, and crazy people respectively.

  • The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people.
  • The thing about crazy people is that they seem like smart people to dumb people.
  • The thing about smart people is that they seem like dumb people to crazy people.
  • The thing about dumb people is that they seem like smart peoople to crazy people.
  • The thing about dumb people is that they seem like crazy people to smart people.
  • The thing about crazy people is that they seem like dumb people to smart people.

Mind: other than being symmetric, this probably isn't very useful or particularly accurate.

It presumes that members of one class will always misattribute the members of another class as the third. (And not their own.) There's really no reason to believe this. And that there are only three operative classes of people. (Everyone knows that there are in fact 10 types of people. ...)

Though i think there's a certain poetic truth:

Dumb people tend to view intelligence as insanity, and are often persuaded by the insane (or manipulative).

Crazy people have a tendency to rail against the stupidity of the intelligent, and see intelligence in the stupid.

And smart people may mistake stupidity for insanity and vice versa.

There's a deeper question of just what divisions around intelligence are. Etymology is not dispositive, but it is insightful, and one finds that "smart" relates to rapid and effective execution, "crazy" from "crazed" meaning cracked or broken, and various terms for a lack of intelligence being "slow" or "dull".

There's the distinction between smart (or synonyms intelligent, wise, or genius) with informed or educated. "Stupid" is not the same as "ignorant" (the latter is cured by information and education, the former is insensitive to both). And there's a distinction between being insensitive to instruction vs. interpreting it irrationally (crazy).

#intelligence #stupidity #insanity #StephenHawking

dredmorbius@joindiaspora.com

covid-adjacent, nhs, capitalism

Saw a post from someone on facebook saying ‘I love this’ and linking to an article about a 100 year old man raising money for the NHS by doing 100 laps of his garden with his zimmer frame. Why the fuck are we making centenarians perform physical labour to raise money for an essential public service that’s been stripped of funds by millionaires trying to sell it off to their pals. Why would anyone ‘love this’. Am I in a different fucking dimension from everyone else

-- socially distant pirate yarr

https://godforsaken.website/@dreadpirateyarr/104002984024119323

#covid19 #uk #NHS #capitalism #PublicGoods #insanity

ya@sechat.org

𝕀𝕥 𝕚𝕤 𝕤𝕠𝕞𝕖𝕥𝕚𝕞𝕖𝕤 𝕒𝕟 𝕒𝕡𝕡𝕣𝕠𝕡𝕣𝕚𝕒𝕥𝕖 𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕡𝕠𝕟𝕤𝕖 𝕥𝕠 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕥𝕪 𝕥𝕠 𝕘𝕠 𝕚𝕟𝕤𝕒𝕟𝕖.

—ℙ𝕙𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕡 𝕂. 𝔻𝕚𝕔𝕜, 𝕍𝔸𝕃𝕀𝕊

#sane #insanity #PhilipKDick