#chomsky

tord_dellsen@diasp.eu

The #propaganda in the west is so strong and insidious that i actively try to avoid taking it in, not letting these #narratives and false views into my mind. I see it as dangerous enough that i treat it in the same way that i do #commercials. If i happen to come in contact with it by accident i actively look away from images they present, and put my fingers in my ears when they are speaking. This is for my own safety.

How do i keep up to date on what is going on in the world? Someone here on diaspora suggested to me that we can follow individual journalists who we trust. But who can we trust and how to determine who to trust? One thing i look for is if a person has had opinions that have held up over time, for example people like Noam #Chomsky or John #Pilger (unfortunately he's now passed away).

tord_dellsen@diasp.eu

Worthy and Unworthy Victims

Using a propaganda model, we would not only anticipate definitions of #worth based on #utility, and dichotomous attention based on the same criterion, we would also expect the #news stories about worthy and unworthy #victims (or enemy and friendly states) to differ in quality. That is, we would expect official #sources of the United States and its client regimes to be used heavily – and uncritically – in connection with one’s own #abuses and those of friendly governments, while refugees and other dissident sources will be used in dealing with enemies. We would anticipate the #uncritical acceptance of certain premises in dealing with self and friends – such as that one’s own state and leaders seek peace and democracy, oppose terrorism, and tell the truth – premises which will not be applied in treating enemy states. We would expect different criteria of evaluation to be employed, so that what is villainy in enemy states will be presented as an #incidental background fact in the case of oneself and friends. What is on the agenda in treating one case will be off the agenda in discussing the other. We would also expect great investigatory #zeal in the search for enemy villainy and the responsibility of high officials for abuses in enemy states, but diminished enterprise in examining such matters in connection with one’s own and friendly states.

— Edward Herman & Noam Chomsky, in their book Manufacturing Consent

#UnworthyVictims #WorthyVictims #media #propaganda #PropagandaModel #ManufacturingConsent #NoamChomsky #Chomsky #EdwardHerman

tord_dellsen@diasp.eu

Neoliberal democracy. Instead of citizens, it produces consumers. Instead of communities, it produces shopping malls. The net result is an atomized society of disengaged individuals who feel demoralized and socially powerless.

In sum, neoliberalism is the immediate and foremost enemy of genuine participatory democracy, not just in the United States but across the planet, and will be for the foreseeable future.

--- Noam Chomsky

#NoamChomsky #Chomsky #democracy #neoliberalism

tord_dellsen@diasp.eu

Concerns about Wikipedia

I have been concerned about political articles on #Wikipedia and how they effect people reading them

From what i've seen the #bias in them is so obvious and common that i don't put any value in what they say at this point and i've stopped reading them. (In areas that are not connected with politics or economic interests i sometimes use Wikipedia though)

In my view wikipedia
* reflects #corporate/mainstream #western #narratives and #propaganda (which comes with problems described by #Chomsky and #Herman in their work on the #PropagandaModel)
* uses language that mixes #facts and #evaluations (ex using the term "conspiracy theory"), and in that way communicates to the user what they "should" believe

(The first issue is something that you would see in a normal encyclopedia, but the second issue is unique to Wikipedia in my experience. A normal #encyclopedia would be more objective in their descriptions)

#politics

nadloriot@diaspora.psyco.fr

Shepard Fairey - Noam Chomsky

In the words that appear below his image, Fairey credits Chomsky with his awakening (“lent me the necessary sense”) to the system at work. This humorous lyrical caption, meant to be sung to the melody of a song by punk rock British group, The Clash, is shown beneath the elder theorist, shown with a steely gaze and in various shades of electric blue. Highlighting both the text and Chomsky with a bright orange arrow, Fairey playfully utilizes the abrupt angles to suggest the need to deviate from the norm in order to change the status quo.

Dans les mots qui apparaissent sous l'image, Fairey attribue à Chomsky le mérite de l'avoir éveillé ("m'a prêté le sens nécessaire") au système à l'œuvre. Cette légende lyrique humoristique, destinée à être chantée sur la mélodie d'une chanson du groupe britannique punk rock The Clash, est affichée sous le vieux théoricien, représenté avec un regard d'acier et dans diverses nuances de bleu électrique. Mettant en évidence le texte et Chomsky à l'aide d'une flèche orange vif, Fairey utilise de manière ludique les angles abrupts pour suggérer la nécessité de s'écarter de la norme afin de changer le statu quo.
Traduit avec www.DeepL.com/Translator (version gratuite)

https://obeygiant.com/chomsky-available-tuesday-october-1st/

#art #obey #fairey #shepardfairey #expo #exposition #exhibition #maphoto #myphoto #chomsky #theclash

berternste2@diasp.nl

Souls For Sale – The Times Interviews Noam Chomsky

Media Lens

(...) Recall the context in which news and commentary appear: the tsunami of 24/7 corporate advertising that is subject to no discussion whatever regarding its bias. Unless we accept that these adverts should be balanced by a counter-tsunami of anti-corporate advertising, there is no question of media impartiality for this reason alone.

But this is still just scratching the surface. In our corporate society, the greatest triumph of the corporate monoculture is not the filtered content of the daily newspaper or nightly newscast; it is us, our conception of who we are, of what it means to be human. We may mock the Sun and lament the Mail, but look in the mirror – we are the ultimate product of propaganda. (...)

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if millions of corporate men and women fundamentally perceive themselves as products to be sold on the job market, the question of non-conformity, of challenging corporate society, does not even arise. (...)

When Fromm says ‘nothing is too serious’, he means that we are fundamentally indifferent.

Can we point to evidence? Last week, it was reported that the highest April temperature ever recorded in Spain – the kind of record that might, historically, have been broken by a fraction of a degree – had been blown away by a rise of 5C.

This latest sign of impending climate catastrophe was reported briefly and then forgotten. It received a tiny fraction of the merited attention and concern – not just from the press but also from the public. It was just one more example of how ‘modern man exhibits an amazing lack of realism for all that matters. For the meaning of life and death, for happiness and suffering, for feeling and serious thought’. (Fromm, p.166) (...)

We learn a lot when the likes of Chorley encounter Chomsky and other dissidents whose souls are not for sale; not because the Chorleys have much to say, but because we are witness, not just to a clash of ideas and values, but of ways of being. It is a clash between sincerity and fakery, clarity and obfuscation, engagement and indifference, compassion and egotism. (...)

‘We’re racing towards a precipice of environmental destruction. We’ve got a couple of decades in which we could mitigate or control it, but we’re racing in the opposite direction – nothing could be more dangerous than that. That means reaching irreversible tipping points, at which stage, just steady decline to the destruction of human life on Earth. We’ve never faced that before. Actually, we’ve been facing it in a way since August 6th, 1945, but never at this level of danger.’

Typically for this kind of disengaged journalism, Chorley responded to this awful assertion as if he hadn’t truly heard what had been said, responding: ‘It’s interesting that; I was going to ask you…’. ‘It’s interesting’ was not a serious response to the gravity of what Chomsky had said. Chorley blandly recognised that politicians didn’t seem very interested in responding to the climate crisis. As for the rest of us, he said, ‘we spend our time talking about trivial things’. (...)

Chomsky mentioned some non-trivial crises that are discussed: the Ukraine war, the Yemen war, ‘the total destruction of Iraq, going on still; these are all very serious issues’.

He noted, further, that, last year, fossil fuel production had increased. (...)

Chorley then raised the issue of Ukraine:

‘Certainly, in the UK, the left – actually under people like Jeremy Corbyn – argued that it wasn’t Russia that was the enemy, it was the US that was destabilising the world. (...)

Chomsky responded:

‘Well, the invasion of Ukraine is plainly a war crime. You can’t put it in the same category as greater war crimes, but it’s a major one.’

Which crimes did Chomsky have in mind? He noted that the UN and Pentagon estimate that about 8,000 civilians have been killed in Ukraine:

‘That’s a lot of people, what the United States and Britain do overnight.’

Of course, the 8,000 figure is ‘presumably an underestimate’, Chomsky added, before offering a series of thought experiments:

‘Let’s say it’s twice as much – that would put it at the level of the [1982] US-backed, Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which killed about 20,000 people. Let’s say it’s off by a factor of ten… that would put it in the category of Reagan’s terrorist atrocities in El Salvador, roughly on the order of 80,000. Of course, Iraq is just another dimension.

‘So, it’s serious, a terrible crime. But you can understand why the Global South does not take very seriously the eloquent protestations of Western countries about this “unique episode in history”. They’ve been victims of far more. (...)

These, indeed, are simply facts – the approximate death tolls are well-known, highly credible. The killers are known. There is no ideological bias in these observations. There is ideological bias in the notion that these facts are somehow ‘leftist’. (...)

Chorley again fell back on the ‘equivalence’ theme:

‘But you’re then drawing comparisons between Nato and China and Russia; you see an equivalence between…’

Again, Chomsky rejected the claim:

‘No, I don’t; Nato is a much more aggressive alliance. Nato has invaded Yugoslavia, invaded Libya, invaded Ukraine – backed up the invasion of Ukraine – backed up the invasion of Afghanistan. It’s an aggressive military alliance. Everybody outside the West can see it. In the West, we’re not allowed to think it because we’re deeply controlled by adherence to the party line. But everybody else can see it.’ (...)

In a final, remarkable question indicating just how disengaged and indifferent he had been throughout the interview, Chorley asked:

‘Finally, then, let’s round this off; let’s try and be a bit more optimistic… Will the next century be better than the last?’

Again, it was as if Chorley hadn’t heard what Chomsky had said. Heroically, Chomsky retained his patience for a few seconds longer:

‘There won’t be organised human life a century from now, unless we reverse the course the leadership is now taking towards racing over the precipice on climate destruction.’

By way of a final little joke, Chomsky added:

‘You read the latest IPCC report, I’m sure.’

Complete article

Tags: #media #news_media #censorship #propaganda #coporate_media #bbc #the_guardian #advertising #fromm #erich_fromm #new_statesman #Mehdi_Hasan #jonathan_freedland #times_radio #noam_chomsky #chomsky #murdoch #rupert_murdoch #chorley #climate #climate_change #climate_crisis #climate_destruction #global_warming #ipcc #extinction

aktionfsa@diasp.eu

08.04.2023 Kann KI menschliche Intelligenz erreichen?

Philosophen über Künstliche Intelligenz

Dazu hat Michael Hesse in der Frankfurter Rundschau (fr) einen längeren Artikel verfasst, den wir einfach zum Lesen empfehlen. Welche Schlüsse man dann aus den Ansichten der genannten Philosophen zieht, bleibt jedem selbst überlassen.

  • Angefangen 1948 beim Turing Test: die Maschine "kann denken", wenn ein Mensch, der ihr gegenüber sitzt keinen Unterschied zwischen sich und der Maschine feststellen kann.
  • David Chalmers, der australische Philosoph und Mathematiker und weltweit führende Experte auf dem Gebiet der Philosophie des Geistes, ist der Meinung, dass wir ja auch bei Menschen nicht eigentlich wissen, dass sie wirklich ein Bewusstsein haben.
  • Chalmers hält es für möglich, dass Programme, die von ihrer Konzeption her unbegrenzt sind in dem, was sie „lernen“ können, auch ein Bewusstsein entwickeln können. Der 94-Jährige Linguist Noam Chomsky hält dagegen den menschlichen Verstand für vollkommen unterschiedlich im Vergleich zu bisherigen Entwicklungen auf dem Feld der KI. Den Unterschied sieht er darin, nicht grobe Korrelationen zwischen Datenpunkten abzuleiten, sondern Erklärungen zu schaffen.

Trotzdem warnt Chomsky deshalb aber vor beiden Gefahren

  • die KI zu unterschätzen: KI-Systeme werden Einzug in unser Leben bekommen und "die Automatisierung" wird dann nicht nur die Arbeitsplätze übernehmen, die niemand ausführen möchte und es werden "Regeln und Abläufe standardisiert" ohne, dass Menschen das demokratisch legitimiert haben,
  • wie auch die KI zu überschätzen: Eine Übergabe von Verantwortung könnte schlimme Folgen für Wissenschaft und Ethik und eventuell den Fortbestand der Menschheit haben.

Interessantes Thema - darüber sollte man sich mal bei einem unserer nächsten Offenen Treffen austauschen ...
Zum vorletzten Punkt möchten wir auf den gestrigen Artikel zu Kampfdrohnen verweisen: Haben diese nicht längst ein "Eigenleben" entwickelt, wenn praktisch keine Kriegspartei mehr auf ihren Einsatz verzichten kann?

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anonymiss@despora.de

Noam #Chomsky: The False Promise of #ChatGPT

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/08/opinion/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html

"Note, for all the seemingly sophisticated thought and language, the #moral indifference born of unintelligence. Here, #ChatGPT exhibits something like the banality of #evil: #plagiarism and apathy and obviation."

People tend to use everything uncritically that gives them supposed advantages. I see bad luck for the future as far as ethical problems are concerned, especially since most software developers are not philosophers.

#technology #future #news #ethics #humanity #problem #education #philosophy #society