#agnotology
[preamble: #digitsrants (hold on to your hats for this "bad trip" learning experience #praisetheherb heh)]
"the things we hate in others are the things we hate in ourselves but are not yet facing."
"there's no shame in the truth"
"... HAY YOUUUU... :) stop eating babies. you will be everybody in this room. through the eternium of being, existence, you will be the floor you are sat on now. you will be those molecules of air, and as those molecules of air you will continue on being. through all beings. and the baby. through all being. and if you've tripped, you'll know, that's a lot of being. :) through the rich intricacy. so stop eating babies maybe huh? some fall away, and that's why we're here to catch ourselves. that, what some call psychopathic nihilism, it's not something added, not something switched on, it's switched off, in cowardice or fear, it's okay, because, remember, there's only the one being here... okay now? :) " [i]~or, it went something like that... sorry, started typing more than half way through from memory, and my typing speed's not even half the spoken speed.[/i]
i ate babies... prawns, lamb, chicken, these are all babies, not humans, but further out. cows too, how long can a cow live...when are cattle slaughtered? i dont know, but i am guessing, 2 years? as soon as they're adult sized. hopefully well cared for, nicer than the harshness of nature, protected from the stresses of predators... unilt the perhaps on many levels blissfully unaware... if at least cared for humanely, and not just given over to a psychopathing money reductive machine, racing to the bottom, eventually to churn through human babies just the same, hypnotising people to beleive it the height of oppulent decadence, to eat the poor... #facethehorror
i ate cress, ... it too babie that i ate. further out yet. but still babies.
but if you cant tell that eating human babies is a different level of wrong.... maybe you've been inducted to a form of mass formation psychosis, on some story of superiority, in a hypnotic trance detached from reality, where horrors are numbed to null, and replaced with pleasure. this is a tragic addiction to succumb to, especially because you dont care that it's tragic. that is the addiction. the tightest nub of the addictive self delusion.... because through the eterniae, there is only the one me. nowhere to hide. here with out third eyes clubbed over by our brains, we easy miss that.
yeah maybe we'll get to be breatharian and even then tred with compasionate grace n ease in knowing the air itself me, and the very constructs of it and all.
for now, we can simply face the horror. strong enough to. always a better way.
and if you've never eaten babies...
oh yeah, that was another whole part of it, before i got lost in the side shpeal.
if you've never eaten babies, like me, as in, ^ yeah, that whole bit before. to have a bridge to which to meet those deep in the horror that they do not face yet splash about in. we who perhaps only in earshot of the horror, may recoil in fright, creating the divide. but we cannot mend what we do not face, right? so we too need face the horror. not just those who've toggled "on" their psychopathy,, as in, toggled off their compassion, or at least good sense that they're only hurting themselves... even if only at the very ultimate least basic grounded level of existence itself)...
but then, #agnotology ... the #psychology of not wanting to face the horror. then the complicity, the shame, and then in the hedonistic narcissistic urges given priority in the nullified essence of even base level oneness derived compassion, not even residual as a cold empty strategy of social snakey leveraging... the sort of paths that lead to eating babies.
when it these secret special groups, the specialness and the secrecy leads to new special secrecy groups within that, and within that, and across other avenues... and the broader special group think they're all in it together, not realising they who are not in the inner circle, are the fodder, the buffer, and both the scapegoats and the "marketing"; the good deeds clothing they hide their villainy necessitated secreted from the shared basic moral codes among the broader special secret group. this happens too in non secret but special groups. creating that initial secrete special group. and it's from there there is a selective filter of those who want to be in the secret special group. and that desire, and other driving criteria, atop that desire, that personality or tendency, continues. and the deeper in, the more the feedback loops of the need for secrecy, and the thrills of getting away with it, and the need to run from facing the horror, deeping the psychopathy, and increasing the threat from the psychopaths in the same circle jerk with you at that depth. ... and the increasing need for power, and the lack of better wisdom to know not to do whatever karmic tension building horrors, the power to hide, and the power itself feeds the pleasure satiations... this is how we arrive at #kakistarchy, ruled by the worst. this is what history is littered with. and we can still mend this. if we at least now turn #mendwards, to #faceTheHorror ... knowing, #enlaketch. "you are another me". there's just you and me here, the only being, autopoeisis... are we going to contribute to the tragedy of the commons... or are we going to do something good with it.
... a lot of beings gave their lives so we could be here.
so do something good with it.
.... i like to think of their eyes... especially when i'm eating prawns... since they're so far out there. it's good to remember, they're beings too, they have a sentient umwelt of their own sort. they look out. they see their own kind, eating their own kind. ... sometimes, "you are what you eat", makes me worry... like, if i eat too many prawns... will i turn cannibalistic? haha, i bet i probably had you going at first, earlier on there... "i eat babies" sort of shock line, to get attention, before revealing through a trickle of doubt, maybe i dont mean human babies, and only mean babies of other species... like a little moral reframing check for people. and little shake n shoogle of the moral ground they're standing on... and a "how high?" even as we refrain from mere whisper of the horror.
there are terrible things happening in the world today, in large part because of that tragic feedback loop of worsening psyches in worsening psychopathic structures. hierarchies and corporate structures, for example. the money reductive machine, the power reductive psychology. and we can still mend it. it can be mended.
even as it seems every effort to mend it gets usurped, back into the service of the psychopathic, keep going, keep coiling around to head it off with the next mend.
it may seem dire at times, but giving in, giving up, is the complicity, the path of switching off, and digging that hole of ignorance and psychopathy. and the infinite grace is always right there. because there is no one to have shame from in the ultimate truth. universal truth. transcends the cultural baggages.
a choice.
eyes of fear, or eyes of love.
sure you can try dabble in some of both, but one is blind and pokes the others eyes out, so ...
and of course i dont mean throwing out prudence, savvy, caution, ... this isnt a positivity ninny sales pitch (obviously... it talks about facing the horror of there being psychelogical psychopathic self-incentivising paths, that we're all, not just susceptible to, but inevitablised to experience, in the entirety of existence. ... so, no, not a possitivity ninny sales pitch advocating for head in the sand everything will be alright, no. NO!).... this is an assertive motivational kick up the arse, out of complicity addiction, demented and self harming as it is, and back to the good grace mendwards. even in the face of the horror. even if it means saving face and biding time, or if it means stepping forth loud... with grace, there's ease of strength to stand your ground in humility, with bridges mendwards, to even the worst. some advocate forsaking them for sake of yourself, and maybe sometimes that's situationally the right thing to do, to avoid burnout and worse... but ultimately, the mends have to come around. better sooner. and as soon as. than later and never. but gently, remember, you are it too... selflessness is self destructive just as much as the darkest blinding self serving self sabotage of switching off remembering. and kali yuga is where we are. ... this is the place to initiate mends.
the worst age. when man kills man. and you see that, right?
and see it with the eyes of love though right?
:)
face the horror.
not loving it,
but loving the people, and the mends necessitated, seeded, by the horrors, all the way down, right to the horror of fetishising the horror myopically as the seed, oblivious to the infinite better ways to mend than to provoke worse. that arrogance, that toxicity, succumbs to increasing detrimentarianism where the means are mistaken as ends, and more corruptions seep in through the secrecy structures. so much saving face. so much keeping up appearances.
tha mass formation psychosis of the unwitting...
the groupthink...
you dont know when you're in it, and there can be many layers of it.
...
so what layers did you most recently get out of?
how many times have you climbed out of plato's cave?
enough to familiarise with the higher dimensional topology yet?
seen the onion of overton windows yet? seen how they toggle at certain aspects, coiling to keep you in?
seen the matryoshka matrix? milking you for energy at every level, repeating the same but scaling in size?
at the highest topology, all paradoxes resolve. so long as you retain fidelity... and that comes with the terrain there.
the consciousness
the braman.
and atman is brahman, remember?
enlaketch?
same source?
someone tell me they remember... right?
:)
https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/CONvid-1984---Is-the-Planned-Mass-Extermination-of-Humanity-(Diana-Lenska):8
Yyyyyup! tests were ready in 2017.
Not only that, COVID19 appeared, by that name, in a UK Gov document listing scary infectious diseases in 2015.
Not only that, the SARS-Cov2 viral line was fraudulently patented in 2002, and no significant changes since then.
Buuuuut if you’re actively avoiding looking at clues, these three pieces of information will plink off your eyeballs.
#agnotology #2017 #2015 #2002 and earlier. #2001 #1997 #sackthepnac #1984. #1974. #1948. #1947
… beware the lies to scare you into the agentic state, obeying, without question. power over others, attracts psychos.
are you hostile with your ignorance?
do you treat threats to your ignorance as threats to your life?
#epistemology #agnotology
ps, #consider, the ignorance that dies is not you. :) (one of #DigitsQuips ).
(and yes, this post follows experiencing an instance of hostile guarded ignorance).
#curious ... regarding how #diaspora works...
... is this a #federation issue? or #censorship?
on https://nerdpol.ch/posts/6df24a0069eb013c332d28a1592b385a i do not see my original comments (... i did think it weird that such comment evoked no response, hence checking from another instance of diaspora).
on https://iviv.hu/posts/6df24a0069eb013c332d28a1592b385a it shows for me.
has the diaspora software adapted how it handles ignore? various instances handling it differently? some instances censoring entire other instances?
(if i do this correctly) here's a proper diaspora link there, so you can easier see on whatever instant you're currently on, the extent of the censorship of this you suffer: https://dnext.societas.online/posts/6df24a0069eb013c332d28a1592b385a (or ... https://dnext.societas.online/posts/6df24a0069eb013c332d28a1592b385a ) ... do let me know if (either of those) fail.
incase it too disapears, i'll preserve it here
Digit - 6 minutes ago
interesting… my comments here (from my iviv.hu account), dont show up on this other pod. federation issue? gets me wondering what a controlled narrative censorship bubble some people are living in.quite disturbing that some are being denied the benefit of encountering different perspectives to learn from. … frightening for how much this bolsters groupthink, and the dangerous over-certainty from a dangerously little bit of information.
at risk of evoking wrathful reflexes from those in groupthink, or suffering further censorship, the comments were:
Digit - 2 days ago
yep.be very afraid.
keep doing what they say, even if it is the opposite of prior established best practicies.
trust the corporation sponsored by those profiting from this highly lucrative venture of a captive audience.
and pay no attention to things like codex alimentarius, or operation lockstep. if it was important, the corporate media would have told us about it.Digit
Digit - 2 days ago
and be sure to cancel/ignore anyone who offers you any idea outside the official narrative that we know is true because they told us, and there’s ubiquitous consensus.
#vobes #geoengineering #facethehorror #weareinalotoftrouble
https://rumble.com/v3oje8j-they-are-destroying-the-planet.html
#madness #ecocide #precarity #environment #environmental #ecosystem #extinction
#climateengineering #existentialthreat #nanoparticles #followthemoney
#awareness #awakening #agnotology
"they are not going to stop."
"What can we do to stop it?"
"That boils down to a critical mass of awareness of the populations understand: they're fighting for their lives.
Football games, politics, electrical devices which many cant seem look up from... none of that will matter."
#now
#notimeforcaution
"the only solace I've known, is to be fully engaged in this fight."
geoengineeringwatch.org
https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
How They Secretly Control Us
#agnotology #silentweapons #theyareusingyou
TABLE OF STRATEGIES
Do this: To get this:
Keep the public ignorant | Less public organization
Maintain access to control points for feedback | Required reaction to outputs (prices, sales)
Create preoccupation | Lower defenses
Attack the family unit | Control of the education of the young
Give less cash and more credit and doles | More self-indulgence and more data
Attack the privacy of the church | Destroy faith in this sort of government
Social conformity | Computer programming simplicity
Minimize the tax protest | Maximum economic data, minimum enforcement problems
Stabilize the consent | Simplicity coefficients
Tighten control of variables | Simpler computer input data -- greater predictability
Establish boundary conditions | Problem simplicity / solutions of differential and difference equations
Proper timing | Less data shift and blurring
Maximize control | Minimum resistance to control
Collapse of currency | Destroy the faith of the American people in each other.
but hey, #MaybeTheyCare
#destroying : #family #faith #freedom #funds #fun #publicorganisation #defense #wealth #resistance #democracy #republic #constitution #intelligence #education #autonomy
#creating : #conformity #control #ignorance #problemreactionsolution #reactions #pricemanipulation #destitution #desperation #dumbeddown #dumbdown #plasticwrap #consent
much more to see in the document, but that table (as #vobes highlighted) is quite concisely telling.
https://educate-yourself.org/cn/silentweaponsquietwarsmay79.shtml #1979 #1954
saw it on https://rumble.com/v3s6cjj-how-they-secretly-control-us.html
much like how corporate news started casually reporting about chemtrails etc of geoengineering/weathermanipulation/cloudseeding during covid19 [no, rly, go look in the investment class news, forbes, bloomberg, etc, see the article dates],
i wonder what other stuff they've been up to gets released to next level of declassification in euphemised next layer of overton window during the sensation of their genocidal provocations to "ww3"... which itself may just be the next in the cascade of contingencies to maintain power by terror and distraction and so on.
like, basically... what else is happening on this #slownewsday,
what's hiding in small articles in middle pages...
#agnotology
#weareinalotoftrouble #wecanstillmendthis #saveisraellfromisrael #middleeast #geostrategy #geoprimacy #scapegoats #collectivepunishment #sackthePNAC #washington #cowboys #villains #hegemony #homogeny #russia #ukraine #turkey #hungary #sweden #finland #neutrality #provocation #terrorism #egypt #israel #palestine #nato #history #ignorance #agnotology #duopoly #boughtpoliticians #thisisnotwhatdemocracylookslike
#thestate #thecorporation #thebank #theracket
#bigbrother #bigbaron #bigbank #bigbully #bigbot
#theareusingyou #cuibono #returnoninvestment #warisaracket #businessasusual
#democracy #ococ #ourchoice #ourcountryourchoice
(though i will add, the point he makes, near the end, about the borders and capacity to support, is in error... in the broader contexts of imperial abuses contributing to that (more walls and closed border not a solution), and eliminate the suppression of emancipatory technologies, then there's more than enough headroom to support the world many times over, and no manufactured scarcity (nor isolationism) to infect our minds manipulating us into fearful dependent obedience to our abuser. ... but other than that 1 point... this is jam packed with stuff worth your time to #consider, no matter your #politicalphilosophy ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4N_P-Xd15E
#theignorancethatdiesisnotyou :)
#chrishedges #stellaassange
#julianassange #danieleverettehale #garywebb #edwardsnowden #tomvalone
#wakeup #rights #now
#thisisnotwhatdemocracylookslike #espionageact
#statewithinastate #unaccountable #antiscrutiny #surveilancestate #after911 #paramilitary #copcity #cia
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"... and so now it's over, the, the, ~
and that's really frightening.
It means there's no~
Power is in no way accountable.
There's no transparency.
And we know, history has taught us when that kind of secrecy imposed on autocratic power, it just, it, it~
abuse grows upon abuse grows upon abuse.
And that is why they're just determined to crucify Julian.
That's the crisis that we're in.
We've lost the ability
to know
what power is doing."
#speakout
#restorehumanrights #humanrights #law #democracy #journalism
#whistleblowers #journalists #people #speakup #peopleofconscience #integrity
#wecanstillmendthis
#now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0fYGPcp6M
#democracy #selfgovernance #anarchism #wethepeople #jury
#WeCanStillMendThis see?
repost with more tags
#lawful #government #constitution #magnacarta #principles
#education #educationeducationeducation #pedagogy
#radicalchange #radicalpedagogy #radicalegalitarianism
#naturallaw #commonlaw #law #state #legislature #peers #morality #morals
#disagnogenesis #gnogenesis #agnotology #raiseawareness #spreadtheword
#truth #facethehorror #seektruth #consensus #sheepleism
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#inconvenienttruths #responsibility #selfreflection #reclaimsovereignty
#sovereignty
#williamkeyte
ignorance of ignorance becomes arrogance.
#DigitsQuips #agnotology #epistemology #humility #curiosity #certainty #wisdom #intelligence #intuition #awareness #presence #hubris #dunningkruger #alittlebitofinformation #routeone #overconfidence #noshameinthetruth #arrogance #ignorance #ignorancesquared
will we ever learn?
not if we don't teach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkBbA5bbLSM
#eduction #history #pedagogy #neveragain #genocide #prevention #agnotology #holocaustignorance #genocidedenial #howmany #learn #tedx
last generation face to face with holocaust survivors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_uH_ZM_5Ds
#3timesasecond #information #secreted #93billionsecrets #agnogenesis #agnotology
it gets expensive, keeping things expensive.
#restoreabundance #reavailabundance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_uH_ZM_5Ds #russellbrand #matthewconnolly
no science or democracy under censorship nor under secreting classification.
#didntdoit #needtoknow #itsapuppet #deepstate #congress #courts #disclosure #education
how many of those secrets do you suspect serve to maintain a rigged game for industry?
#notfair
no #emancipationtechnology for you.
only the #prisonware they tell you to be used by.
#DigitsRants
#staydownslave #remaindefeatist #orriottoprovokethenextphase #problemreactionsolution #ugh
3 times a second, a gov bod makes something secret.
what a waste of human potential, under the weight of ignorance generated by the #barricade of #secrecy
3 times a second, a gov bod makes something secret.
what a waste under the weight of ignorance by secrecy.
we could have spaceships for everybody already, you know, by now, surely, right?
or have they covered and discredited enough of that trail, that your research was truncated, along with your imagination of the range of possibilities?
srsly. i'm not joking with the #spaceshipsforeverybody stuff. you've got to look up this stuff. it's important. even just look into patent secrecy...
is the ignorance that dies, you?
#ignorance #epistemology #confirmationbias #awakening #wisdom #socratic #agnotology #pedagogy #education #myopia #fear #contemplation #introspection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0XGtijebQ
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as posted as a reply here: https://dnext.societas.online/posts/02ff18a0ec2f013afdac00505681eeb8#1ea009607e6c013ba78a00505681eeb8 to "I feel genuinely confused about the process you use to integrate knowledge in the pool. if not with information believed to be true, then how?" and in context of that exchange, and others, around the contentious controversial time of #TheEvent
i'll start with suggesting how i dont.
i dont pre-decide, dismissively decline to answer questions, be incurious. i dont attck different perspectives.
to then consider the other side of those statements affirming the negative,
i aknowledge i do not know, i answer questions, i ask questions. i take different perspectives as cue to learn.
prominently,
entertain the idea.
consider answers (my own, and others') in context (even as simply as "she/he said" contrast to "is true" (nor "is false")).
exploring rabbit holes.
and, though i've a long way to go for competence in this, deploy the socratic method, to evoke questioning, introspection, and curious enquiring humility, in others as much in myself.
as a satirical cartoon i made this morning has in text "Just as pens make poor binoculars, belief makes a poor means to determine reality" along with an image depicting someone with a pen infront of each eye. this speaks to the curiosity preserving, humility affirming, aproach, of non-belief.
some quotes/phrases/quips that further evoke or affirm the non-belief aproach i consider an ideal worth aspiring to:
leave no stone unturned in the search for the truth.
it is the mark of an educated mind, to entertain an idea without necessarily accepting, nor rejecting, it.
if ignorance is bliss, give me agony.
the ignorance that dies is not you.
this last one especially helpful reminder to overcome and avert succumbing to identifying with convictions, which is a terribly difficlut state of being to get out of, when confronted with perspectives that contradict currently held convictions/identification with world view.
further to this collection of epistemological affirming quips, there's the thing about 6 blind men and an elephant. it goes something like this:
there are six blind men, who come together, finding each other's voice, then the come across something... the first walks into the belly, and declares there's a wall between them. another walks into the leg, and declares it a tree. the next walks into the tusk and agrees, the man who said it's a wall is wrong, as he's found a branch, describing it a curved protrusion. the next man has encountered the trunk, and declares the man at the trunk wrong as it's in motion and soft, and wrapping around him, "it's a snake" he shouts. the man at the back hears these two, and grabbing the tail, declares them both fools, and says it's a cow. the man at the ear, tells them they're all wrong, and that it's a giant bat. the argument continues, as they each assert the details of the piece of evidence they have. eventually, someone with sight comes along, hearing the ruckus, and explains the situation to them, guiding them to each other part, to get a more complete picture.
there are many versions of this old story. very useful for helping alleviate the blinding certainty, born of the danger of a little bit of information.
a little bit of information, is a dangerous thing.
and that's where we always are. the famous dunning kruger graph, speaks to this same area, where certainty is born fast of deluding the information got being the information there is, before discovering the greater complexity.
so again, it comes to asking questions, to keep enquiring, to introspect to catch ones own blinding arrogance. arrogance, can often be well characterised as ignorance squared. as in ignorance of own ignorance. (and then feel free to recurse that further).
further, than many apply these insights...
all i know is i know nothing, and sometimes i forget even that much.
the first part of this, is a paraphrasing of the socratic seed maxim of wisdom and humility. this can be derived, born of, proceeding to continue to introspect and query any assertion... following this process, you invitably find the extents, the limits, of our knowledge, finding the end basises where one has to confront an assumption underpinning subsequent conclusions is but an unfounded assumption.
the second part, is a reminder to restore this humility, an innoculation against the arrogance of conviction and identity as one who has become infallible by merely having chirped "all i know is i know nothing".
this leads to another quip of mine (iirc, i started using in 1999)
everybody needs a little bit of nihilism. emphasis on little.
& later phrased/prefaced/analogised as
nihilism's like salt.
everybody needs a little.
this is, as in, just enough to help destroy the identification bond, with cherished convictions and identities. not so much it destroys this and a thousand other epistemological sanities. not so much you give birth to delusional psychopathies, and countless other malignant pathologies of psyche and cognition.
by chance, the video i have playing in the background's saying:
her: ... scientists in our audience, but for the people who dont think of themselves as scientists, saying not only can you must, y'know, question this stuff when it comes at you when it's dressed up as science, because of course that's going to be a thing that they do when they're not actually revealing science to you.
him: yeah, or another way to say it: questioning the science is how you do science.
"not only can you, but you must"
this is science. not just questioning authority, but rejecting authority, and in that place where authority would alleviate you of your duty to think, or even deny you the right to think, instead, think.
receiving what to "think", without thinking, is not really thinking, it's belief, and belief in dogma, imposed, from pre-deciding there's an expert.
such role-centricity in this regard, is the logical fallacy of an adhominem. you cannot get to truth by such means. and if perchance you stumble upon it, it is no greater thing than a stopped clock being right twice a day. or perhaps more favourably, more forgivingly, the proverbial blind cat stumbling upon the dead rat. there may be some extra sense helping the way there, besides better sight. but you cant rely upon this as your means of determining reality. just waiting for rats to die, and perchance to pick up the smell. we have better senses than this. and in the reality the metaphor speaks to, we can rekindle these better senses with these insights, these cues, to realise, we're not blind, we need only open our eyes (or perhaps first wipe away the poison and blood that stings and occludes our vision).
so...
confusion's good.
or, at least, ability to reccognise onself confused, is good. in so far as it's better than cognitive dissonance persisting unrecognised, unchallenged. better than, guarding ones world view, stubbornly prejudicially clung to, inducing the hostile wilful ignorance of bigotry. and the hole such hostile bigotry digs for oneself, scaring away friends who would otherwise offer more information. the hole, of confirmation bias. the naive realism. the mistake of conflating absence of evidence as evidence of absence. and it's not just failure to find, not just failure to look, but actively shooing away the evidence, then deciding the evidence absent, and therefor (in another fail of logic) deciding the current world view is correct. naive realism, thinking what you think is reality, mistaking the map, for the terrain, and worsened with this bigotry, to actively prevent the map being updated with new information.
so, there's much to learn, from all...
some say to seek out those who are at least 10% better than yourself in some area... and that may help find better coat tails to hang on to get a little further, get a little closer to the truth, but it's fatally flawed and will never get you there, depriving yourself of better means of determining reality than accepting another's dogma, even if their dogma is not of ends, but of means. and, perhaps even more importantly, it disuades the idea that we can learn from all, that no matter how further behind in some area someone is, that we cannot learn from the interaction, from offering education, from seeking education from them, and education from within the interaction.
in a sense, this is getting to,
education begets education.
... and, perhaps drifting a little aside from answering the query, this reminds of my last year of college, when i discovered (from a mature fellow student) i'm dyslexic, and the education system had not picked this up in my 14 years of formal education (and still hadnt, since it was a fellow student who pointed it out to me), which, coupled with other failings and corruptions and perversions of education and pedagogy i'd noticed, became the straw that broke the cammel's back, and i gave up on formal education... and... the revelatory point of this little story... the subsequent year, alone, with a library card and an internet connection, i learned more, just in that year, than i had in the entire prior 14 years of formal education.
because i was questioning, i was curious. i was not merely being a spoon-fed drone of the system. i was not suffering the stultifications and stagnancies, i was not waiting upon the ridid schedules, i was not suffering under the educators' incompetencies, i was not struggling to ignore my curiosity to absorb inconsequentialities, i was not being left behind when missing a key part. i was free to more thoroughly delve into nuances, free to explore across subjects/topics/fields. i was de-silo'd. i was free to recoup my energies to use my energies as optimally as needs be, on demand, following the curiosity.
how?
curiousity's how.
curiosity and perseverence.
curiosity and humility.
humility to know i dont know.
not a corrupted humility that presumes an expert knows.
i know i dont know the expert knows.
which is neither believing the expert knows, nor believing the expert does not know.
it is this humility, that avails a perpetual receptivity.
not a desperate faux humility that seeks to be filled and closed as soon as possible.
remaining open minded.
remaining enquiring.
this is the science way, not the scientism dogmatic new religion way, the bastard child perverted from science.
"if scientism is my child, it was conceived from stollen sperm without my permission" -- science (to paraphrase one of Richard Matthew Stallman's quips regarding "open source").
open minded and enquiring.
so, when enquiring why someone asserts something they asserted (subtextually or plain overtly), and they decline to answer, or even attack for asking, it may be easy to presume all manner of failings on their part, moral, psychelogical, epistemological, or, maybe they know something, and have some other reason for not offering an answer.
this reminds of socrates, offering gratitude for every time those he enquires for truth with, for answering in a suitable manner. it's possible then to get whittling towards truth. if in place of an answer to the question, an insult or misdirection is offered, then we have to take a far longer route to get to the specific area of truth in question, and there's much more elsewise revealed in that response, to deviate through, perhaps discovering other plausibilities, ...
but... this gets tricky to word, and tricky to not get sucked down to their level.
consider, perhaps, "level"s there, could, among other considerations, refer to Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement, (popularly known as "the debate pyramid").
at the top, is "centrally refute the point", then down to "refutation", "counterargument", "contradiction", "responding to tone", "adhominem", "name calling" (i hope i got that correct... just rattled off from top of my head).
this correlates fairly well with the mundane conception of consciousness.
though even there, in the mundane conception of consciousness levels, there's ample room above. the hierarchy of disagreement is just for that, and there's much more to explore beyond just that shows up as disagreement.
the mundane conception of consciousness, increases in awareness of context, and reduces leaping to belief in short-hand.
for example (... and, i hope i manage to do this justice, as, a prior attempt in irl conversation, failed to get there in time for my conversational counterpart's patient curiosity to allow... so hopefully i'll manage to do this justice with time enough to think of an adequate example.)
so... "jim's a dick". lets start it from this example. a declarative statement, emotively charged, with a judgement, and a pejorative. we might manage to peel this back with further knowledge, like, who said it, and so then we can know it more as "tom says jim's a dick", then further, with more context, of the emotion, the events, the illustrative meaning... and we're into increasing levels of consciousness. contrast this to the lower level of consciousness, the higher level of unconsciousness, or merely accepting the statement as fact, without challenging it, without probing it, without enquiry.
idk if that's a great example. better examples swirl tantilisingly just out of easy reach in my mind. familiar, but not tractionable enough yet for me to offer expediently as an elucidatory tool for others to easily grok.
but maybe that's another good example, a "right mistake"(/shortcoming), to help avail the space to reach for...
... "man's reach should exceed his grasp, else what's a heaven for."
both for me, and you, reading this.
similar to sitting with ones own awareness of confusion; awareness of not knowing. therein, the vacuum of humility, perchance, to find more. and ideally, find more, ongoing, and not just stuffing the first route-1 discovery into the sensory holes, re-imbuing stultifying blinding ignorance, and ignorance squared, in the naive realist declarative "i get it!" clinging to that dangerously little bit of information, attaining myopia, losing broader awareness.
and there's always more.
at higher topologies the paradoxes resolve.
and perhaps all paradoxes are resolved at the highest set of all topologies ?
... i dont recall, from my experience of omniscience. (note, this is not an argument from authority, nor ought ever be, in use nor consideration, for that is the ultimate folly; the ultimate self-defeating epistemological fail).
but it was the only time i felt i had grounds to say "i know". but keenly disapative as that is, like a dream upon waking, perhaps more a product of biology; of neurophysiology and neurochemistry.
i just find it an interesting aside, a point of noteworthyness, in this treatise about epistemological method and curious humility, that beings such as us, can experience, omniscience. and that there may (/nay, inevitably are) many beings who are "now" experiencing omniscience, aware of every portion of this happening now, every nuance of it, every scale of it, every part of every part...
i say "now", but, to have ever, is to always, at least while. like i say, it disapated quickly. cant take it all back with you.
and so it is also with our epistemological rummagings in the "normal" problem solving curious state of being.
there's always more.
so better not injure ourselves with the arrogance to presume to already know.
all i know is, i know nothing.
and sometimes...
i forget even that much.
...
and...
i put this forth, not as an expert.
i put this forth, keen for any and all parts of it to be challenged, to be offered differing perspectives upon, perchance to discover the elephant beyond the portion i fumble around with making perceptions of.
(ps, i hope that reads okay. rattled off fairly quick in one sitting. hopefully i didnt neglect to go back to edit unfinished parts, and hopefully it’s not to heavy on idiomatic phrasing to get lost in translation.)
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The only barrier to truth,
is the belief you already have it
-- Voltaire
#nonbelief #voltaire
#goodquote #goodquotes #quote
also "the only barrier to truth is the presumption you already have it" -- Chuck Missler
and "a prominent barrier to truth seems the certainty to already have it" -- Digit
#belief #presumption #certainty #truth #epistemology #humility #curiosity #wisdom #introspection #awareness #acceptance #agnotology #ignorance #arrogance #consider #philosophy
ps "all i know is i know nothing, and sometimes i forget even that much." -- Digit paraphrasing Socrates plus extra humility whimsy.